In this conversation, Philip Wolf and Madison Margolin discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict and its impact on both Jewish and Palestinian communities. Madison shares her personal experience of being in Israel during the attack on Oct 7th and the psychedelic-like effects of living in a war zone. They explore the concept of psychedelic consciousness and its potential to promote understanding and unity in the conflict.
Madison also discusses her book 'Exile and Ecstasy,' which explores her upbringing in the Ram Dass community and the intersection of Judaism and psychedelics. They reflect on the challenges and opportunities of the psychedelic movement and the importance of taking action beyond personal experiences.
In this conversation, Madison Margolin and Philip Wolf discuss the intersection of the psychedelic movement and the industry, the potential keynote topic for Ram Dass at a psychedelic conference, the therapeutic model of psychedelic experiences, the similarities between Kabbalah and the Vedic texts, the teachings of Maharaji and Jesus, the challenges in the world of journalism, and a prayer for peace and harmony.
Takeaways:
The psychedelic movement and industry should work together to honor the roots of the movement and prioritize access, equitability, cultural preservation, and spiritual practice.
Ram Dass's keynote at a psychedelic conference would likely focus on harnessing and sustaining the psychedelic experience without relying on constant use of substances.
The therapeutic model of psychedelic experiences should aim to help individuals make lasting changes in their lives and not create a revolving door of returning customers.
The Kabbalah and the Vedic texts share similarities in their exploration of spirituality and the different layers of reality.
Maharaji and Jesus would likely discuss the importance of loving awareness and putting love into action.
The world of journalism faces challenges with the focus on clickbait and shallow content, but there is a need for deep, substantive reporting.
A prayer for shalom ba'is, or peace and harmony, in the world.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Acknowledgment of Israel-Palestine Conflict
03:00 Madison's Experience in Israel during the Attacks
06:18 Impact of the Attacks on Festival Goers
08:40 Shared Pain and Suffering of Jewish and Palestinian People
10:59 Psychedelic Consciousness and Nuanced Understanding of the Conflict
18:17 Ayahuasca Study with Israelis and Palestinians
20:19 Ancestral Traumas of Jews
35:06 Promotion of Madison's Book 'Exile and Ecstasy'
37:47 Growing Up around Ram Dass and the Be Here Now Movement
44:41 The Second Generation of the Be Here Now Movement
48:49 Reflections on the Psychedelic Science Conference
51:26 Keeping Psychedelics as a Movement
51:43 The Intersection of Industry and Movement
54:15 Ram Dass's Keynote at the Psychedelic Science Conference
56:03 The Therapeutic Model of Psychedelic Experiences
59:13 The Kabbalah and the Vedic Texts
01:01:01 Similarities Between Kabbalah and Vedas
01:08:44 Maharaji and Jesus
01:19:04 Problems in the World of Journalism
01:22:12 Prayer for Shalom Ba'is
Intro music produced by Bloomurian
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